20.2.2013 | 09:47
Heimsfrægur efnafræðingur fjallar um sínar efasemdir á Þróunarkenninguna
James M. Tour er prófessor í efnafræði, tölvunarfræði, verkfræði og "materials science" hjá Rice háskólanum. Hann er höfundur eða með höfundur að 489 vísinda greinum og hefur 36 einkaleyfi. Hérna er heimasíðan hans, sjá: http://www.jmtour.com/
Hann vill ekki flokka sig sem einhvern sem aðhyllist Vitræna hönnun og gefur mjög áhugaverðar ástæður fyrir því en hann setti nafn sitt á lista þeirra vísindamanna sem efast um Þróunarkenninguna.
Á heimasíðu hans er að finna áhugaverða grein þar sem hann fjallar um Þróunarkenninguna og af hverju hann hefur sínar efasemdir um hana. Hérna eru nokkrar áhugaverðar athugasemdir úr greininni:
Laymans Reflections on Evolution and Creation. An Insiders View of the Academy
Although most scientists leave few stones unturned in their quest to discern mechanisms before wholeheartedly accepting them, when it comes to the often gross extrapolations between observations and conclusions on macroevolution, scientists, it seems to me, permit unhealthy leeway. When hearing such extrapolations in the academy, when will we cry out, The emperor has no clothes!?
I simply do not understand, chemically, how macroevolution could have happened. Hence, am I not free to join the ranks of the skeptical and to sign such a statement without reprisals from those that disagree with me? Does anyone understand the chemical details behind macroevolution? If so, I would like to sit with that person and be taught, so I invite them to meet with me.
Á fyrirlestri í nóvember 2012 í Georgia Tech þá gékk James Tour ennþá lengra og sagði þetta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZrxTH-UUdI&feature=youtu.be
I will tell you as a scientist and a synthetic chemist: if anybody should be able to understand evolution, it is me, because I make molecules for a living, and I dont just buy a kit, and mix this and mix this, and get that. I mean, ab initio, I make molecules. I understand how hard it is to make molecules. I understand that if I take Natures tool kit, it could be much easier, because all the tools are already there, and I just mix it in the proportions, and I do it under these conditions, but ab initio is very, very hard.I dont understand evolution, and I will confess that to you. Is that OK, for me to say, I dont understand this? Is that all right? I know that theres a lot of people out there that dont understand anything about organic synthesis, but they understand evolution. I understand a lot about making molecules; I dont understand evolution. And you would just say that, wow, I must be really unusual.
Let me tell you what goes on in the back rooms of science with National Academy members, with Nobel Prize winners. I have sat with them, and when I get them alone, not in public because its a scary thing, if you say what I just said I say, Do you understand all of this, where all of this came from, and how this happens? Every time that I have sat with people who are synthetic chemists, who understand this, they go Uh-uh. Nope. These people are just so far off, on how to believe this stuff came together. Ive sat with National Academy members, with Nobel Prize winners. Sometimes I will say, Do you understand this?And if theyre afraid to say Yes, they say nothing. They just stare at me, because they cant sincerely do it.
I was once brought in by the Dean of the Department, many years ago, and he was a chemist. He was kind of concerned about some things. I said, Let me ask you something. Youre a chemist. Do you understand this? How do you get DNA without a cell membrane? And how do you get a cell membrane without a DNA? And how does all this come together from this piece of jelly? We have no idea, we have no idea. I said, Isnt it interesting that you, the Dean of science, and I, the chemistry professor, can talk about this quietly in your office, but we cant go out there and talk about this?
If you understand evolution, I am fine with that. Im not going to try to change you not at all. In fact, I wish I had the understanding that you have.
But about seven or eight years ago I posted on my Web site that I dont understand. And I said, I will buy lunch for anyone that will sit with me and explain to me evolution, and I wont argue with you until I dont understand something I will ask you to clarify. But you cant wave by and say, This enzyme does that. Youve got to get down in the details of where molecules are built, for me. Nobody has come forward.
The Atheist Society contacted me. They said that they will buy the lunch, and they challenged the Atheist Society, Go down to Houston and have lunch with this guy, and talk to him. Nobody has come! Now remember, because Im just going to ask, when I stop understanding what youre talking about, I will ask. So I sincerely want to know. I would like to believe it. But I just cant.
Now, I understand microevolution, I really do. We do this all the time in the lab. I understand this. But when you have speciation changes, when you have organs changing, when you have to have concerted lines of evolution, all happening in the same place and time not just one line concerted lines, all at the same place, all in the same environment this is very hard to fathom.I was in Israel not too long ago, talking with a bio-engineer, and [he was] describing to me the ear, and he was studying the different changes in the modulus of the ear, and I said, How does this come about? And he says, Oh, Jim, you know, we all believe in evolution, but we have no idea how it happened. Now theres a good Jewish professor for you. I mean, thats what it is. So thats where I am. Have I answered the question? (52:00 to 56:44)
Margt þarna mjög áhugavert. Sérstaklega fannst mér skemmtilegt að lesa hvernig virtir vísindamenn eru til í að viðurkenna í einka samtölum að þeir skilja ekki hvernig þetta virkar en þora ekki að gera það opinberlega.
Þetta setur unga háskóla nema í skemmtilegt ljós. Þeir eru varla búnir með eitt ár í einhverri grein en þykjast sko vita gífurlega margt um vísindi og þróunarkenninguna og að hún er svo augljóslega rétt. Hrokinn og sjálfsumgleðin í fáfræðinni er Háskólanum sjálfum að kenna. Þeir kenna þessa kenninguna eins og hún er augljóslega sannleikurinn, auðskiljanleg og óumdeild og að bara að efast um hana er vottur á greindarskorti. Það er svona sem heilaþvottur virkar og allir heiðarlegir, alvöru vísindamenn ættu að hafa óbeit á svona taktík.
Meiri og ýtarlegri umfjöllun um þetta hérna: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/a-world-famous-chemist-tells-the-truth-theres-no-scientist-alive-today-who-understands-macroevolution/
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